HTC One is better anyway 🙂 CPW, P4U and other suppliers are just dust in the eyes tbh. My contempt for them translated into buying the damn phone off Amazon if I want it SIM unlocked, because Amazon will send you a new phone if it breaks down even before you send them the broken one back.
Orange, Three, Vodafone, T-Mobile, O2, you name it, they all call with “offers” with out of date phones for “just” “3 quid/month”. When I’ve asked them about “lol ok, I want an HTC One because I already have a Nexus 4 and your offer sucks balls”, they immediately backed off and made me an offer “25 pounds cheaper” than in shops, but those 25 pounds would be refunded to me when I would pay my first bill.
So thanks but no thanks to all providers/suppliers. I prefer Amazon or Google Play.
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It’s never hot.
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In God we trust, all others pay cash 😉
In 2004-2005 I had a lot of problems with my Nokia phone (new phone bought from the store) and I had to visit service 4-5 times, each time about 2 weeks, loosing value almost 30% before I finally enjoyed the phone. So…since then I never buy a new phone from the store. God bless world crysis and idiots paying 50% more value for a crappy product, that I can buy second hand “BNIB”or “just like new” for half a price and no special 2 year deals with retards mobile phone operators.
Needless to say no problem occured so far as I test everything I buy. For me stores are real extortioners lol. I don’t feel the need to pay them the extra money they put on products. Pre Pay in Romania is faaaaaaaarrrrrrrr waaaaaayyyyyy bettttteeer and cheaper that any monthly plan.
And if you don’t like the operator just drop the SIM to the toilet and flush the water. Treat them with love 🙂
Ta-Da…
CarphoneWarehouse = spam ? I can’t belive that CarphoneWarehouse is spamming people over the internet. CarphoneWarehouse is not a piece of shit, it is a great company.
I’m thinking you have an auslander risk. If you purchase the phone with 99, there might be a posibility to leave the country after 2-3 months and not making another payments. The risk is smaller for the company if you accept the offer with 269 in advance and make 2-3-4 monthly payments becouse the phone price is almost covered. Maybe, after 5 years of UK, you will be able to buy a phone with 99 in advance 🙂
@Sabotor: I know you’re right but I don’t know what’s in that company head. I was working in customer suport for Tre Italy (Three in UK) here in Ro and I know that albanians, romanians, moroccans people etc where often refused for new monthly contracts simply with expensive phones becouse they where auslanders (=not born in Italy).
Ronnie does have a point there. Credit offering companies (banks included) will generally disconsider any type of requests for people that don’t have at least 4-5 years of checkable financial history and as stupid as it may sound, if you had a credit card/mortgagte/loan (and would have been up to date with repayments) you would have gotten the credit (under the idea: he has the reasons not to run and he has the means of paying us). It took me 4 years of decent financial history to be granted a lousy credit card (and i only took it for the above mentioned reason – and that was still through the damned celtic boom and all that shit) so i would definitely imagine that at the moment, with all the fear of recessions, such companies are rather scared of offering any such deals to “newcommers”. On the other hand, the way they handled this whole situation is despicable. On the other hand, wouldn’t it have been cheaper for you guys to deal with the carrier directly ? (rather than the likes of CPW)?
I don’t think you guys are considering why this is a bait and swich and not just an “auslander” or otherwise other type of credit risk.
Phones are sold at a discount when _the service provider_ is sure that the cost of the phone can be recovered through the service bill. So far so good,everybody knows this.
The important detail here is that T-mobile is the provider. They are the people that have the means to recover the cash. CarphoneWhor^h^h^harehouse are third party retailers in this case. Since the provider can recover the cost it stands to reason that the provider is the one taking the risk in the first place by discounting the price of the phone.
Now, give that T-mobile does not market the £99 price on their own website and instead want about three times as much, why would they offer the phone for less than £99 to a third-party retailer ? Why would they loose more money to give someone that’s possibly a competitor (if cpw deals with other providers as well) a better deal then they could directly offer to customers ?
Having considered who the players are and where the risk stands it stands to reason that CPW did not receive a better deal from T-mobile than T-mobile were willing to put on their own web-site and instead made up the offer as bait.
An no , it makes no sense for CPW to cover the difference in the cost when T-mobile are the ones recovering the money.
I could be wrong, given how domain registrars would sometimes have better offers than the tld holder because they get a bulk discount but give there’s ~200 pounds worth of difference and that CPW also deal with other providers …. does not seem likely.
I fail to see a note, a warning, anything to that effect, saying “the carrier is free to reject your application for whatever reasons”. And please don’t tell me it’s somehow implied.
Quote off the dealer’s website:
” Do I need to be from the UK to sign up to a monthly contract?
You don’t need to be a British citizen, but you do need to have lived in the UK for at least three years. ”
That’s the closest I could find to something that would bar Manowar from getting their contract. It’s however different from “You failed a credit check”. Go ahead and find the actual terms and conditions which explicitly state what criteria you must meet to pass/fail their credit check. Until that, it’s a bait & switch imho.
It’s however different from “You failed a credit check”.
“You failed a credit check for 27 pcm, but we’re going to call you to offer the same phone on a different (more expensive) network”
They don’t “trust” me to pay 27 pounds, but they’ll “trust” me to pay 41. If you really think this had anything to do with terms&conditions or credit checks, I should probably introduce you to my friend. He’s a nigerian prince and needs a small favour…
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HTC One is better anyway 🙂 CPW, P4U and other suppliers are just dust in the eyes tbh. My contempt for them translated into buying the damn phone off Amazon if I want it SIM unlocked, because Amazon will send you a new phone if it breaks down even before you send them the broken one back.
Orange, Three, Vodafone, T-Mobile, O2, you name it, they all call with “offers” with out of date phones for “just” “3 quid/month”. When I’ve asked them about “lol ok, I want an HTC One because I already have a Nexus 4 and your offer sucks balls”, they immediately backed off and made me an offer “25 pounds cheaper” than in shops, but those 25 pounds would be refunded to me when I would pay my first bill.
So thanks but no thanks to all providers/suppliers. I prefer Amazon or Google Play.
i`m in a telemarketing department and we do this kind of shit on a daily basis
thieves here, thieves here, thieves everywhere 🙂
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In God we trust, all others pay cash 😉
In 2004-2005 I had a lot of problems with my Nokia phone (new phone bought from the store) and I had to visit service 4-5 times, each time about 2 weeks, loosing value almost 30% before I finally enjoyed the phone. So…since then I never buy a new phone from the store. God bless world crysis and idiots paying 50% more value for a crappy product, that I can buy second hand “BNIB”or “just like new” for half a price and no special 2 year deals with retards mobile phone operators.
Needless to say no problem occured so far as I test everything I buy. For me stores are real extortioners lol. I don’t feel the need to pay them the extra money they put on products. Pre Pay in Romania is faaaaaaaarrrrrrrr waaaaaayyyyyy bettttteeer and cheaper that any monthly plan.
And if you don’t like the operator just drop the SIM to the toilet and flush the water. Treat them with love 🙂
Ta-Da…
Houston, THEY got a problem! What we´ve got here is a failure of communication! In Spain the offers suck as much as there…
so how the fuck are they supposed to say muie steaua?
Classic bait & switch.
CarphoneWarehouse = spam ? I can’t belive that CarphoneWarehouse is spamming people over the internet. CarphoneWarehouse is not a piece of shit, it is a great company.
Oldest trick in the book?
…
Not quite tricky. Not quite old. Shame, shame.
…
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HTC One is quite possibly the best android phone on the market today.
Who was phone.
Romania…oh wait.
I’m thinking you have an auslander risk. If you purchase the phone with 99, there might be a posibility to leave the country after 2-3 months and not making another payments. The risk is smaller for the company if you accept the offer with 269 in advance and make 2-3-4 monthly payments becouse the phone price is almost covered. Maybe, after 5 years of UK, you will be able to buy a phone with 99 in advance 🙂
Yep, classic bait&switch. Report to The Offices of Trading Standards and
The Offices of Fair Trading.
@ Robert :))))))))))))))))))))
@Ronnie
Yeah, because it makes perfect sense to leave a several thousand pounds / month job for a 500 euro phone.
@Sabotor: I know you’re right but I don’t know what’s in that company head. I was working in customer suport for Tre Italy (Three in UK) here in Ro and I know that albanians, romanians, moroccans people etc where often refused for new monthly contracts simply with expensive phones becouse they where auslanders (=not born in Italy).
*were 🙂
Ronnie does have a point there. Credit offering companies (banks included) will generally disconsider any type of requests for people that don’t have at least 4-5 years of checkable financial history and as stupid as it may sound, if you had a credit card/mortgagte/loan (and would have been up to date with repayments) you would have gotten the credit (under the idea: he has the reasons not to run and he has the means of paying us). It took me 4 years of decent financial history to be granted a lousy credit card (and i only took it for the above mentioned reason – and that was still through the damned celtic boom and all that shit) so i would definitely imagine that at the moment, with all the fear of recessions, such companies are rather scared of offering any such deals to “newcommers”. On the other hand, the way they handled this whole situation is despicable. On the other hand, wouldn’t it have been cheaper for you guys to deal with the carrier directly ? (rather than the likes of CPW)?
I don’t think you guys are considering why this is a bait and swich and not just an “auslander” or otherwise other type of credit risk.
Phones are sold at a discount when _the service provider_ is sure that the cost of the phone can be recovered through the service bill. So far so good,everybody knows this.
The important detail here is that T-mobile is the provider. They are the people that have the means to recover the cash. CarphoneWhor^h^h^harehouse are third party retailers in this case. Since the provider can recover the cost it stands to reason that the provider is the one taking the risk in the first place by discounting the price of the phone.
Now, give that T-mobile does not market the £99 price on their own website and instead want about three times as much, why would they offer the phone for less than £99 to a third-party retailer ? Why would they loose more money to give someone that’s possibly a competitor (if cpw deals with other providers as well) a better deal then they could directly offer to customers ?
Having considered who the players are and where the risk stands it stands to reason that CPW did not receive a better deal from T-mobile than T-mobile were willing to put on their own web-site and instead made up the offer as bait.
An no , it makes no sense for CPW to cover the difference in the cost when T-mobile are the ones recovering the money.
I could be wrong, given how domain registrars would sometimes have better offers than the tld holder because they get a bulk discount but give there’s ~200 pounds worth of difference and that CPW also deal with other providers …. does not seem likely.
I fail to see a note, a warning, anything to that effect, saying “the carrier is free to reject your application for whatever reasons”. And please don’t tell me it’s somehow implied.
Quote off the dealer’s website:
” Do I need to be from the UK to sign up to a monthly contract?
You don’t need to be a British citizen, but you do need to have lived in the UK for at least three years. ”
That’s the closest I could find to something that would bar Manowar from getting their contract. It’s however different from “You failed a credit check”. Go ahead and find the actual terms and conditions which explicitly state what criteria you must meet to pass/fail their credit check. Until that, it’s a bait & switch imho.
“You failed a credit check for 27 pcm, but we’re going to call you to offer the same phone on a different (more expensive) network”
They don’t “trust” me to pay 27 pounds, but they’ll “trust” me to pay 41. If you really think this had anything to do with terms&conditions or credit checks, I should probably introduce you to my friend. He’s a nigerian prince and needs a small favour…